MacIntyre on the is-ought problem

I think most philosophers nowadays take it for granted that there is a distinction between judgments about how things are and what we ought to do, and that claims of one type cannot be logically derived from nothing but statements of the other type–you’re going to need a premise in there of the form “if this is how things are, then this is what we ought to do.”

In Alasdair MacIntyre’s After Virtue, a defense of Aristotelian virtue ethics, attacks this idea. He’s really interested in judgments of “goodness” rather than “oughts”–fair enough, since the is-ought problem is supposed to apply to ethics in general. Then he cites the cases of “good farmer” and “good watch,” where it seems like we can make judgments about who the good farmers are and what the good watches are based on descriptive facts alone, precisely because the terms “farmer” and “watch” contain within them a certain notion of what farmers and watches are for.

MacIntyre then goes on to make this generalization:

Within the Aristotelian tradition to call x good (where x may be among other things a person or an animal or a policy or a state of affairs) is to say that it is the kind of x which someone would choose who wanted an x for the purpose for which x’s are characteristically wanted.

Apply this to the question “what is a good man?” and some humorous thoughts immediately pop up: stereotypical images of a military commander barking “I need a few good men” and yuppie women wondering where all the good men are in their city. Having read Geoffrey Miller, part of me wants to believe there’s more to the second image than meets the eye–Miller’s thesis is that humanhttp://www.amazon.com/Mating-Mind-Sexual-Choice-Evolution/dp/038549517X evolution was driven by the need to attract sexual partners, and that doing so is the ultimate reason for a wide range of human activities with apparently diverse purposes. That thought is especially tempting given that Aristotle’s account of virtue was as something only a few could achieve, and that, in spite of attempts by the Catholic church to make Aristotle underwrite good Christian morality, he is probably better understood as part of the “pagan virtues” tradition where virtue (or, what may be a better translation of the Greek, excellence) is largely about being better than other people (and, on Miller’s account, a more attractive item on the sexual market place).

When looked at from the point of view of the is-ought problem, however, this answer isn’t very satisfying. Even if it just were part of the definition of the word “man” that “good man” meant “good soldier” or “attractive mate for a heterosexual woman,” this wouldn’t mean that those qualities are what are ultimately worth trying to attain in life. That question remains, as G. E. Moore said, an open question. The is-ought gap remains unbridged.

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  1. I think that Alonzo Fyfe and Richard Carrier independently came to the correct solution to the is-ought problem:

    When we say that someone “ought” to do something, we are saying that someone should perform some action given their desires as reasons to act and the facts about how these desires can be actualized.

    For example: If I want to drive to Florida, but my car needs a full tank of gas to get to Florida, then assuming I have the means to purchase the gas I ought to purchase the gas.

  2. Ryan,

    The idea you attribute to Fyfe and Carrier uses ought in a purely instrumental way. Most philosophers, I suspect, wouldn’t spend much time on this conception, because the moral ought has other characteristics – e.g., grounding blame, praise, and accountability. This can’t be said for instrumental oughts.

    I haven’t read MacIntyre but as Chris says he is, broadly speaking, a virtue theorist. So the point for him would be that some descriptions are, in some sense, moral descriptions. The point is to highlight this particular kind of description. The virtues can be had or exercised by persons, and it seems like we could discuss these matters completely (so the claim goes) without invoking deontological language.

  3. Joshua,

    “This can’t be said for instrumental oughts.”

    Sure it can, because blame, praise, and accountability are all grounded in the same instrumental way. Blame is instrumental in satisfying the desire for justice. Praise is instrumental in promoting more of the same kind of positive behavior. Accountability is instrumental in maintaining a positive environment where the full spectrum of our desires can continue to be maintained. It is tautologically true, that if some moral concept is not “instrumental” or goal oriented, there is by definition no reason to be concerned about it. And your moral facts are not grounded after all.

    As Doc Brown would say, “You just aren’t thinking 4th dimensionally…” :D

    Ben